Curse

Numa Pompilius · Nov 01, 2008, 08:28 PM // 20:28

1) No it's not bannable. Simply being an asshole is not a bannable offense.

2) Every district (*except* in the international district) I visited during the event had a wall of golems around the King, purposely blocking the view for everyone else.
Why? Probably because they thought it was funny, possibly because they thought the King picks paper-scissors-rock competitors by how big they are.

3) Give every NPC a Spirit of Detonication for next event plz, Anet, or we'll have the same sad bullshit happening again.

Kashrlyyk · Nov 01, 2008, 09:00 PM // 21:00

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Because banning people for standing somewhere while under the effect of a tonic is dumb.

If standing in a particular spot griefs others it is not dumb. BTW leechers are standing somewhere too! So why the ban there?

Arkantos · Nov 01, 2008, 09:13 PM // 21:13

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Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

If standing in a particular spot griefs others it is not dumb. BTW leechers are standing somewhere too! So why the ban there?

Do you have to see the mad king? No.
Do you get something special for seeing the mad king? No.

If you were actually losing something, then yes, a temporary ban may happen, but you aren't.

crazybanshee · Nov 01, 2008, 09:14 PM // 21:14

My first reaction was, wtf why do you even need to see the mad king, don't be one of the horde of idiots standing there spamming /pickme the entire time. But On second thought, I do understand people trying to take screenshots of mad king, that would really bother me too. I don't know what they can do about it, unless someone went around and took the names of all the people doing it, there's not much they can do about it now. Maybe they'll do something for future holidays, disable tonics in town or something that people find equally irritating that only partly solves the problem.

upier · Nov 01, 2008, 10:33 PM // 22:33

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Originally Posted by Kashrlyyk

A badly chosen name is reason enough for a temporary ban. So why not?

Because Simon says so?

It's one thing what we think should result in a ban - and it's a different thing what A.Net decides will.
And based on what we have seen - like I said - I seriously doubt this will result in a ban. Some might consider this a bit crappy but it's so bloody insignificant that I couldn't care less.

Hyper Cutter · Nov 01, 2008, 10:35 PM // 22:35

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Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa

Whats next? you want to ban tall male warriors?

No, because the tallest warrior (hell, even Norns) are dwarfed by the Mad King. The Golems are the only tonic creatures big enough to obscure him...

The Little Viking · Nov 01, 2008, 10:42 PM // 22:42

well, its not like you have to actually be able to "SEE" the king to participate. I personally didn't have a problem with them. I rather enjoyed watching them fall apart when they were killed. A lot more entertaining then watching something with a pumpkin on its head (or maybe it is the kings head...who really knows for sure), do nothing but stand there.

The Meth · Nov 01, 2008, 11:02 PM // 23:02

guru is a great place to go for some lulz.

If it really matters so much to you, move up to the king and go into first person, you will be able to see through the other players you are standing inside.

Xx_Sorin_xX · Nov 01, 2008, 11:10 PM // 23:10

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

Well actually if you want to report, you can, rules of conduct number 1: on the basis that they have cause you distress resulting in you having to ask them to move constantly which resulted in many unwanted attention to you, and you were at the same time unable to enjoy the game fully.

While playing Guild Wars, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players. You will not report players maliciously, or cause them to be investigated without reason.

while that sounds nice, they have a unseen logical clause of sorts behind this. otherwise i can easily claim you not inviting me into your party is causing me great distress. obviously your not going to get into trouble for not inviting me to your group.

or another problem being, i enjoy messing with people ingame, and by this rule i have the right to enjoy the game, but at the same time by this rule i don't have the right to mess with people in game.

so don't take this at face value.

Wish Swiftdeath · Nov 01, 2008, 11:44 PM // 23:44

hahah this is hilarious, i could have had so much fun with my tonics... if only i didn't go afk.

Chronos the Defiler · Nov 01, 2008, 11:57 PM // 23:57

I did this once...the first thought in my mind, and words from my mouth (onto vent, not to myself...) was "aha awesome, I can completely engulf the king with this tonic. And i can Crotch Bambi people all standing around him!"

Then got some rude and distressful comments about being a homosexual and cigarette, So i left and made myself a sandwich because I didn't want to see the comments anymore.

TideSwayer · Nov 02, 2008, 12:21 AM // 00:21

It's a-hole behavior to tonic yourself into something that big and block others' view of the Mad King. There's no doubt about that. These people, much like those who deliberately name their characters something profane or spam "ALT+F4 blah blah blah" during events, know exactly what they're doing, and could very well be punished accordingly. They are trying to ruin it for others, not just the ones who've been to 3 other halloween events, but maybe those newer players who might've never seen the Mad King before. Is this the type of behavior that ANet wants events to degenerate into from this point on?

ANet should definitely come up with some sort of solution for people who are bothered by this. Whether that entails giving out temp bans for the a-holes in question, disabling the use of tonics in the main towns around event "windows" (ie. the hour window around the Mad King's/other demonstrative event NPCs' arrival or something), or simply moving these demonstrative event NPCs to a new, unblockable, location is up to them.

I'm a fan of tonics in general, especially the multi-person tonic formations you often see in big towns from time to time (great stuff). I'd hate to see tonics get taken down to size (literally and figuratively speaking) permanently because of this. I would ask ANet to come up with some sort of solution for this, though, whatever that may be. As annoying as these Golem-blockers may be, putting up with the constant cries of people being annoyed at it will also be a hinderance to further event enjoyment.

Personally, I've seen all the event stuff before so I'm neutral on this issue. I was indeed in a district affected by Golem blockers last night (although only once out of the 4-5 Mad King shows I went to), and can certainly understand where the complaints are coming from.

Wish Swiftdeath · Nov 02, 2008, 12:27 AM // 00:27

i would say lock this... but i guess it keeps the whiners from spreading to other parts of the forum

TwinRaven · Nov 02, 2008, 01:23 AM // 01:23

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Originally Posted by gremlin

Ok so now I feel guilty about the real world but you could use your specious arguments as a reason for not doing anything.

Drunk driving ignore it people are starving.
Rape ignore it Atomic war is a real possibility.

We are in a game forum talking about a game, references to horrifying real world disasters have no place here.
btw what have YOU done to reduce any one of the disasters you mention ?

Arenanet should either reduce the golem size or alter the festivals to allow people to enjoy them.

No Guilt intended, just a little perspective. As for your examples, I hardly see how what I suggested is anything like ingnoring a rape because nuclear war may break out someday...more like ignoring an asshole giving you the finger and changing lanes so you don't have to deal with him.

As for the real world, assholes exist there like anywhere else...starting a thread over something that is SO easily remidied by moving to another district seems excessive...not like its a spawn killer in Halo and you can play because of it...you have the option of moving...simple. The discussion on banning people over being jerks...*sighs*...just doesn't seem important. It isn't like you can't play the game because someone is breaking your computer...just blocking your view. Real world horror put into perspective the petiness of the whole complaint (no offense intended to anyone truely harmed by the event, and I hope you weren't).

As for what I've done about real world horror...lot's of stuff, though it doesn't seem enough. I by local produce, drive a car that gets 40+ MPG and am ordering one that runs on compressed air next year (when they are available), I volunteer at the County building working with "at risk" kids, worked 5 years at Parks and Rec doing the same thing, I grow some of my own food, buy fair trade goods, compost, recycle my trash, keep my thermostat at 60 degrees, use organic and environmentally friendly products where/when possible, spent extra on organic produce, eat a high fibre diet and keep myself healthy (to keep from contributing to health care issues related to type 2 diabetes), contribute to fund raisers for local schools, have adopted 3 pets from the Humaine Society, can my own jams and preserves, I'm monogomistic and have never cheated on my first or second wife...keeeping STDs from contaminating my loved ones (HAD to address herpes issue...still no cure...poor, poor folks), have chosen not to have kids because of world population issues, have adopted an unwanted child (for a year before his mom wanted him back), I arrive at work a 1/2 hour early and leave as many as 3 hours late (I'm a teacher, so the extra time is helping kids), and as a teacher I raise the conciousness of my students through art, journalism and media literacy practices...Many of the subjects I cover include the afformentioned list...I know, I know...it isn't nearly enough, but I'm working on it.

Still...all-in-all...I think the simplest solution to the Golem issue is simply changing districts or ignoring it...*shrugs*...still seems a wasted topic for a thread to me. I don't see ANet having to do anything for me to enjoy the festival any more than I already do.

fenix · Nov 02, 2008, 01:44 AM // 01:44

Wow. You guys are all such gigantic carebears.

People like you make the game suck. So what, he used a tonic and participated in the event. Get the hell out you whining idiots. You don't need to see anything for the Mad King, if you're mad about it go to another district. I hope everyone who reports those people gets banned instead. Idiots.

Khazad Guard · Nov 02, 2008, 01:57 AM // 01:57

Give him a box to stand on. Problem solved!

gremlin · Nov 02, 2008, 01:57 AM // 01:57

Good comeback TwinRaven darn good

I guess I took exeption to the real world horror bit was partly because it isnt relevant to an escapist medium forum and partly because your suggestion to change districts was an impossible option.

I could start in district one all is well mad king arrives and 4 people take tonics.

Do I jump districts one by one hoping to find no golems should I message all my friends in the same district to come with me.

Or should I just complain about the bad behaviour of others.
I act in the real world when peoples bad behaviour annoys me and others so why not in a game.

Perspective as you say is good but if it means giving in to online idiots I say no.

Edited
I should add that yes the Golems are good and they were at times funny, I too enjoyed the way they fell to bits when they got something wrong during MKTs appearance.
What wasn't really on was some of them standing in the way for the whole time MKt was there.
I also admit that some of the Golems just didnt think about it at the time, well you know now so next year I expect either Golems will be absent or there will be hundreds of em.

DoomFrost · Nov 02, 2008, 01:58 AM // 01:58

I know I had a fun blocking Mad King Thorn this Halloween. I don't know how many people said they were going to report me, but I know it was alot. I even had one guy who said he reported me for botting because I was a golem. Good times, good times.

Issac · Nov 02, 2008, 02:08 AM // 02:08

Man, wish I was there to see all this happen lol.

TwinRaven · Nov 02, 2008, 02:35 AM // 02:35

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Originally Posted by gremlin

I guess I took exeption to the real world horror bit was partly because it isnt relevant to an escapist medium forum and partly because your suggestion to change districts was an impossible option.

I could start in district one all is well mad king arrives and 4 people take tonics.

Do I jump districts one by one hoping to find no golems should I message all my friends in the same district to come with me.

Or should I just complain about the bad behaviour of others.
I act in the real world when peoples bad behaviour annoys me and others so why not in a game.

Perspective as you say is good but if it means giving in to online idiots I say no.

I get it...GW keeps me from dwelling on things too. I didn't see chamging districts as impossible because I moved from one to the next without having guildies/friends to worry about. As for the idiots though...read the posts above this...they thrive on your angst. When people behave like idiots, get all your friends to use the report feature...may or may not get them a temp-ban, but posting it publicly is gonna result in them thinking "Good, I hurt someone..." People like that aren't worth your time...focus on the BIG stuff for a minute or two and it'll seem insignificant in the grand sceme of things. The folks who get off griefing others aren't worth the skin they are wearing or the shit that fills it...just smile and remain confident that while you can chose wether or not to let them bother you, they have no choice in wether or not they are assholes. I wonder what carebear I sound like...Potty-mouth Bear?

Next time, just start a guild petition to report them...if ANet cares at all, there will be some minor consequence...if not, agree to meet in the international districts next time...usually nicer folks there.